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==== Two questions (OpenInsight Specific) ====
=== At 08 OCT 1999 08:38:02AM Gene Sorbo wrote: ===
 
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Two questions for the OI community:



1) I have a networked OI 3.61 application deployed on a Novell 4.1 network, not using the NLM. When I go into form designer, and pull up a form that is bound to a table, I cannot change the edit validation for any of the fields (the option is greyed out/protected). I am able to edit the conversion pattern as it is not greyed. What could be causing this? The same system works fine in a standalone PC environment.



2) Is there anyway to setup a radio button bound to a table field without presenting a default value? I know I can set the value to blank programatically, but was wondering if there was a way to do this within the form designer?



TIA



Gene
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=== At 08 OCT 1999 09:40AM ArjunRevelation wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>I don't know if I understand this. You said that the Validation is greyed out but there is only one button labelled "edit" in the properties box, which brings up both Validation and Conversion. Also make sure you can see the database association for that specific field in the properties box.

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=== At 08 OCT 1999 10:00AM Oystein Reigem wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>Gene,



[i]1) I have a networked OI 3.61 application deployed on a Novell 4.1 network, not using the NLM. When I go into form designer, and pull up a form that is bound to a table, I cannot change the edit validation for any of the fields (the option is greyed out/protected).   I am able to edit the conversion pattern as it is not greyed. What could be causing this? The same system works fine in a standalone PC environment.[/i]



This sounds familiar, i.e I think I have read about it. Try to do a search for postings about this problem. I seem to remember Don Bakke knew something about it.



[i]2) Is there anyway to setup a radio button bound to a table field without presenting a default value? I know I can set the value to blank programatically, but was wondering if there was a way to do this   within the form designer?[/i]



I don't think so. It [i]is[/i] possible to write something in the Default dropdown, or remove the text completely, but at least [i]I[/i] cannot get anything to work. So unless there's some secret syntax I think the answer is no.



But I think it still might be possible to do it at design time, but with the System Editor.



The "source" version of the window is stored in SYSREPOSWINS. I have occasionally edited SYSREPOSWINS rows with the System Editor. This time I had no luck, though. Even if I was able to locate the default value, it didn't help to remove it.



But there is also a "compiled" version of the window in SYSREPOSWINEXES. I've stayed away from editing SYSREPOSWINEXES rows earlier, but I tried now to remove the radio button default value and it seemed to work! At least no radio button is initially selected when I run the window.



I've come across one problem when editing SYSREPOSWINS rows, and that is when windows have static texts containing more than one line (i.e containing a line break). I don't know about SYSREPOSWINEXES rows, but it's likely they have the same problem.



And of course it's handy with some documentation when one does open-heart surgery on windows. Sprezzatura has published docs on both SYSREPOSWINS and SYSREPOSWINEXES rows.



What I did with my test window was to make a radio button group with two buttons, change the button labels to "xxx" and "yyy" but keep the values "Radio_1" and "Radio_2". Then in the SYSREPOSWINEXES row I found a field (line)



TEST_RADIO_DEFAULT.RADIO_1

RADIOGROUP
TEST_RADIO_DEFAULT
200
150
39
30

1
1
0X52000000
0X20




0
MS Sans Serif
-11
700
0
0
0
0
34
0
1
2
1
0
0

CLICK*2*SYSPROG*CLICK..OIWIN*


[b]Radio_1[/b]
























What I removed was the string "Radio_1" shown in boldface.



- Oystein -

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=== At 08 OCT 1999 10:01AM akaplan@sprezzatura.com - [url=http://www.sprezzatura.com]Sprezzatura Group[/url] wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>[i]1) I have a networked OI 3.61 application deployed on a Novell 4.1 network, not using the NLM. When I go into form designer, and pull up a form that is bound to a table, I cannot change the edit validation for any of the fields (the option is greyed out/protected). I am able to edit the conversion pattern as it is not greyed. What could be causing this? The same system works fine in a standalone PC environment.[/i]



This is an issue with NT.  See [url=http://www.revelation.com/WEBSITE/DISCUSS.NSF/f12696d31000b22a8525652b00831bb2/0F8B29752B09647F8525662C00490993?OpenDocument]this link[/url] for a probable solution.







[i]2) Is there anyway to setup a radio button bound to a table field without presenting a default value? I know I can set the value to blank programatically, but was wondering if there was a way to do this within the form designer?[/i]



Nope.







akaplan@sprezzatura.com

[url=http://www.sprezzatura.com]Sprezzatura Group[/url]

[img]http://www.sprezzatura.com/zz.jpg[/img]

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=== At 08 OCT 1999 12:17PM Gene Sorbo wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>The validation portion of the edit is greyed, but the conversion pattern is not.



Thanks.



Gene

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=== At 08 OCT 1999 12:19PM Gene Sorbo wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>Thanks Oystein.



I edited the entry in SYSREPOSWINS with no luck, but did not think to play with SYSREPOSWINEXES... .



I'll make a backup of the form and then start to play.



Thanks again.



Gene

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=== At 08 OCT 1999 12:20PM Gene Sorbo wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>Thanks Aaron.



The users are accessing the system via a remote Citrix connection (e.g., NT 3.51 machine) - I'll research the thread and see what I can find.



Gene

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=== At 08 OCT 1999 12:49PM Oystein Reigem wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>Gene,



A backup is probably a good idea.



And I hope we are on different sides of the Atlantic if something goes horribly wrong. :-)



- Oystein -

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=== At 08 OCT 1999 07:47PM Gene Sorbo wrote:  ===

<QUOTE>O.K. Oystein, cover your ears, here goes...



It worked!



Thanks.



Gene

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