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==== Designing Web Site (OpenInsight Specific) ====
=== At 28 NOV 2001 11:03:50PM Robert Lee wrote: ===
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One day, when my company grows up, I want a website like Revelations - with a cool forum like this. I presume to accomplish this I will need the Web Deployment Pack? I also will be writing a number of other normal static web pages. Being a total web designing novice, I would be delighted to receive any advice about what would be a good product to use to develop the static pages.
Thanks
Robert Lee
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=== At 29 NOV 2001 12:10AM Donald Bakke wrote: ===
Robert,
Most people I talk to who *know* how to design a good web page say they actually don't use (or think much of) fancy web development tools. The best tool is a nice text editor and a good knowledge of HTML and how to make things work.
dbakke@srpcs.com
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=== At 29 NOV 2001 06:02AM Oystein Reigem wrote: ===
Robert,
There has been some discussion about HTML editors here on the lists, but not much. Do a site search on "DreamWeaver", and you'll find a few postings about that and other tools.
- Oystein -
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=== At 29 NOV 2001 09:58AM [url=http://www.sprezzatura.com" onMouseOver=window.status=Click here to visit our web site?';return(true)]The Sprezzatura Group[/url] wrote: ===
Don makes a good point. As you know the Sprezz collective eschew individual assertions as a rule... however to introduce some relativism - the drone we consider the most web accomplished in the borg prefers a text editor and a good working knowledge of HTML. The middling drones favour DreamWeaver and the managerial "I can update a What's New Page" drones favour FrontPage.
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=== At 29 NOV 2001 02:24PM Robert Lee wrote: ===
Thanks Guys
I must admit I was surprised at the HTML consensus - but I suppose it makes sense. It must be like real programmers use OI, Wanna bees use Access and Managers can do a sales graph in Excel?
So my next investment is HTML for dummies? Any particular version I need to watch out for?
Robert
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=== At 29 NOV 2001 03:05PM Donald Bakke wrote: ===
Robert,
We paid to have the entire office go through an online course for HTML and then a subsequent course in advanced HTML. For the money (~$50), this was well worth it. The instructor was pretty good but the real advantage was going in a self-paced manner and yet you were always progressing, taking little quizes, and doing relevant projects. If you printed all of your lessons out then you also have a manual of sorts to refer to.
We went through our county's continuing education program. I know these exist across the nation because I was accidentally enrolled in Maryland once (our office is in California.)
dbakke@srpcs.com
[url=http://www.srpcs.com]SRP Computer Solutions, Inc.[/url]
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=== At 29 NOV 2001 03:36PM Richard Hunt wrote: ===
I just want to add a little something. You might already know this, and then maybe not.
When using internet explorer, you can look at the "source" code of a web page. Click on "view", "source". A seperate window will come up and show you the "source" code of that page.
With a "html" book, you can see how some things are done. This might offer you a bit of insight on how simple or difficult web pages can be, and how neat things are done.
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=== At 29 NOV 2001 10:21PM Robert Lee wrote: ===
Richard
Thanks. I did know that. Doesn't look quite as bad as 8051 assembler code. It is only a markup language - after all??? Not a real programming language??? Well I guess I'll find out soon enough. I suppose Java constitutes a real programming language if we want to get fancy...
Robert Lee
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=== At 30 NOV 2001 12:12AM James Birnie wrote: ===
Hi Robert,
My favourite:
* GUI HTML editor is definitely Dreamweaver by Macromedia - it the most expensive but is available for trial so you can check it out. It formats cleanly (ie. read indents in the right places and "does not make assumptions or insert heaps of garbage" unlike its MS competitor ;)) allows easy table modification, style sheets + javascript debugging. Dreamweaver Ultradev apparently supports DB connections + javabeans but I haven't had the opportunity to check it out...
* text HTML/javascript editor is Textpad by Helios software - same reason - its very customisable yet powerful. Its also a great java editor.
I'd like recommend two invaluable syntax reference books by Orielly - HTML pocket reference + Javascript pocket reference
And don't worry, you'll breeze it!
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=== At 30 NOV 2001 07:33AM Colin Rule wrote: ===
You can do it now, for free.
Have a look at
http://www.boardhost.com/
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=== At 01 DEC 2001 11:23AM [url=http://www.sprezzatura.com" onMouseOver=window.status=Click here to visit our web site?';return(true)]The Sprezzatura Group[/url] wrote: ===
[b]EDLIN![/b]
[i]EDLIN![/i]
[u]EDLIN![/u]
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=== At 02 DEC 2001 07:21PM Robert Lee wrote: ===
E* An editor is an editor unless that editor is the wonderful Mr Edlin!
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=== At 03 DEC 2001 12:02PM Dave Harmacek wrote: ===
I use NoteTab Light which has code assistance. Then try SimpleServer from AnalogX for your webserver.
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=== At 03 DEC 2001 04:30PM Wilhelm Schmitt wrote: ===
My favourite for online web tutorials:
[b]www.w3schools.com[/b]
Wilhelm
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