One of my clients has recently converted from Novell 3.2 to Novell 4.12 and the DOS workstations(6 or 7) are having problems with environment space. I have not seen this problem on the W98SE workstations.

The message is:

"run-time error R6009 - not enough space for environment"

I can give the original DOS partition any size of environment that I want: 256 to 4096 etc. but when AREV does a shell out to Dos using a PC or SUSPEND then that DOS is stuck with 256 and apparently there are some functions that this is now (in Novell 4) too small and the error message ensues.

I have looked at the dos command comspec but it does not have /e: for environment setting of the invoked DOS via command.com. I have looked everywhere but no luck. Maybe the setting is in AREV?

Anybody with ideas on what is going on here?

Thanks

Ted Archibald in Tsawwassen BC

Ted:

The novell client has a bigger footprint, so there is less room for other DOS apps.

can you run MEMMAKER, see if that helps?

Bob

Hi Bob

I use QEMM 8 (remember that one?) and get lots of DOS space, over 609 KB. Memmaker is a piker when it comes to using memory. Poor old QEMM.

It is not the memory in the DOS partition that is the problem, it is the 256 bytes of the default environment as setup in the dos shell that is initiated by PC or SUSPEND. I thought that it would copy the size from the existing or last DOS.

I am using

  command.com /e:2048 /c k:\arev\arev.exe %1 /sxm4096

in a bat file to start arev

Arev gets an environment of 2048 but the dos from a PC or SUSPEND gets only 256 and commands issued there sometime give the error message mentioned above. I know that it is only 256 because I do the prior command without the arev.exe and use \QEMM\MFT to look at the size of the environment. I can also see the size from MEM /p/d

Cheers

Ted

Maybe thiw would help…

SUSPEND COMMAND.COM /E:2048 /C PROGRAM.EXE

Add a new command processor with the specs you need.

Are you calling NPRINT? NPRINT in Netware 4 is MUCH bigger on memory than in version 3. If you are calling NPRINT with an arev pcperform, it will not work in Netware 4. Two fixes:

Get the Netware 3 NPRINT.EXE and copy it to your Netware4 server.

Change your Arev pcperform to perform "suspend…."

JB

Check the system login script etc. to see what is happening to your comspec.

Try typing set when you shell out to DOS from ARev to see what your comspec is set to.

Check the Novell login script settings (using SYSADMIN) - check that you are exiting the script cleanly, and that you are pointing to identical copies of the command shell (ie. your local copy and the network copy as the COMSPEC= does. The default Netware setting points to the network copy - use c:\command.com for these Novell users - ask your network administrator to work through it with you.

The R6009 is a standard Microsoft C compiler message for DOS executables.

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The default DOS environment is 256, which sometimes is not adequate because lots of stuff is stored there. From a dos prompt, type set, to view what's being maintained. It will be similar to the following:

---

winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS

COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM

BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P330 T6

CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS

EXPAND=YES

DIRCMD=/O:N

TEMP=C:\temp

TMP=c:\temp

PROMPT=$P$Q$G

PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\;C:\DOS;C:\ILIB;C:\MENU;C:\IBMTOOLS

windir=C:\WINDOWS

—

Here's a sample config.sys file with the environment set at 512:

---

device=C:\WINDOWS\himem.sys /testmem:off

COMMON

SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:512 /p

fileshigh=100

dos=high,umb

---

Notice the SHELL= command which sets the environment at 512,

i.e, via, /E:512

Hope this helps. My last experience with Novel was in the 3.xx days.

Thanks all for the input.

The solution that was simple and direct was from Richard Hunt

with some minor changes.

In the R/BASIC pgm I needed to end a Novell capture

In Novell 3 I used pcperform ENDCAP

In Novell 4 the following seems to work

 SUSPEND 'COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /C CAPTURE.EXE EC ALL ] NUL '

notice the quotes

Cheers

Ted Tsawwassen BC

There is an $endcap program for AREV which may work in your setting. It was written to solve the memory issues for Novell 3 & 4.

http://www.state-of-the-art.com.au/util12.zip

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A PDISK PRN from Arev should satisfy the needs of most places needing an ENDCAP. The Capture, command, however, is also overly large, and I see that zip file also has a replacement capture.

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