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At 28 MAR 2003 09:10:40PM Alberto Arreola Pérez wrote:

Que tal Grupo, lo siento por no escribir en ingles pero esta un poco mal mi ingles y no me daria a entender, bueno pasando a tema, estoy cargando una aplicación pero el problema es que cuando la ejecuto en resolución de 800x600 a 256 colores, no me aparecen las imagenes y lo mas raro que cuando activo a 16 bits todo va muy bien, ahora bien el mismo proceso lo hago en win98 y lo hace en cualquiera de los dos modos de video, solo el problema lo tengo cuando lo ejecuto en Windows 2000 Server, que acaso lleva una directiva para poder ejecutar la aplicación correctamente?

Bueno espero me puedan ayudar.

Saludos

Gracias

Alberto


At 29 MAR 2003 03:40AM [url=http://www.sprezzatura.com]The Sprezzatura Group[/url] wrote:

If we understand correctly, the higher video resolution works on Win98 but not Win2K server? Possibly a red herring but is it possible that the video card itself is not high resolution?

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At 29 MAR 2003 05:58AM Oystein Reigem wrote:

Alberto,

I understand even less of your posting than Sprezzatura. But it seems there are some problems with 256 colours. Is the screen set up with 256 colours? I remember I had problems with images (bitmaps) in 16-bit OpenInsight when the screen was set up with 256 colours. The colours came out badly. Only 16 colours were used. This is a very old problem. I don't know if it ever got corrected.

- Oystein -


At 29 MAR 2003 10:52AM Pat McNerthney wrote:

According to www.FreeTranslation.com:

That such Group, I feel it for not writing in ingles but this a little badly my ingles and not me daria to understand, good passing to theme, I am charging an application but the problem is that when I execute it in a word of 800x600 to 256 colors, not the images appear and it but rare that when active to 16 bits all goes very well, now well the same process itI do in win98 and does it in any of the two ways of video, alone the problem I have it when I execute it in Windows 2000 Server, that perhaps carries an executive to be able to execute the application correctly?

Good I expect they can help myself.

Greetings Thanks


At 29 MAR 2003 02:02PM Wilhelm Schmitt wrote:

Alberto is having problems with his application on a Windows 2000 Server.

With a screen resolution of 800x600 / 256 colours, images won't appear. Activating 16 bits everything's fine.

Under Win98 both options work without any problem.

Hope this helps to focus Alberto's problem.

Wilhelm


At 29 MAR 2003 05:41PM Oystein Reigem wrote:

Alberto,

When your images don't appear, what do you see? A black rectangle? Or what?

- Oystein -


At 30 MAR 2003 04:07AM Steve Smith wrote:

For such a group, I feel bad not writing in English, but if I do you probably won't understand me as well. I am loading an application but the problem is that when I execute it in a resolution of 800x600 with 256 colors, my images do not appear correctly but the unusual thing that when it's active in 16 bit color everything goes very well.

]] so Alberto's color palette on his images is complex.

However, the same steps I undertake in win98 in any of the two video modes, only the problem I have is when I run under Windows 2000 Server - perhaps this needs a driver to be able to execute the application correctly?

]] check the Windows 2000 server video card and drivers are switched to support the 16 bit color.


At 31 MAR 2003 04:44AM Oystein Reigem wrote:

Just to make myself clear: There have been several problems with images in OI, among them 24-bit images not displaying properly in OI16. I've written tons of postings about that. Luckily it got corrected in OI32. But the problem with images on 256 colour systems is a different one.

As soon as I posted I started doubting the existence of this problem, being so long since I last saw it. But it's still there! In OI32 even!! See other posting "Problem with images on PCs set up with 256 colours".

- Oystein -


At 31 MAR 2003 11:53AM Victor Engel wrote:

En moda 16-bit, Windows utilisa gama de colores general, asi como la que tengo aqui http://the-light.com/netcubes.html

Yo pienso que el problema is que Windows 98 y Windows 2000 usan gama de colores (palette) diferentes en moda de 256 colores. Solo 216 colores son iguales.

Vea mi pagina http://the-light.com/netcol.html que describe el problema. Si usted usa solo los colores que son en esta gama de 216 colores, usted no debe tener problema.

Pero, hay otro problema. Cuando usted cambia de un programa al otro, es posible los colores cambien tambien. Asi es porque Windows nececita recomputir los colores para cada programa si usen colores diferentes. Cuando eso ocurre, es posible los colores son feos. En este caso, es posible mejorar los colores. Minimize, entonces maximize el programa.


In 16-bit mode, Windows uses a generic palette, like the one I have here http://the-light.com/netcubes.html (look at the 15-bit palette – the 16-bit palette is similar)

I think the problem is that Windows 98 and Windows 2000 use different 256 color palettes. Only 216 of the colors are consistent. The remaining colors vary by operating system.

Look at my page http://the-light.com/netcol.html which desccribes the problem. If you use only the colors that are in this 216 color palette, you shouldn't have a problem.

But there is another problem. When you switch from one application to another, it's possible the colors might shift at the same time. This is because Windows has to recompute its 256 color palette to most closely approximate when the current application needs. The program in the background could look ugly as a result. If, when you activate that application, the colors are not recomputed, minimize the application and activate it again, and Windows should recompute the colors.


At 31 MAR 2003 07:09PM Alberto Arreola Pérez wrote:

yes Oystein, in black rectangle

thanks for you support!

Saludos


At 31 MAR 2003 07:12PM Alberto Arreola Pérez wrote:

Gracias Victor, probare la alternativa que sugieres y posteare los resultados.

Muchas gracias.

Saludos


At 01 APR 2003 02:54AM Oystein Reigem wrote:

Alberto,

Black rectangle at design time (Form Designer)?

Or black rectangle at runtime?

Or both?

- Oystein -


At 01 APR 2003 01:00PM Alberto Arreola Pérez wrote:

Hi Oystein, this problem in Both

Regards.

Alberto


At 01 APR 2003 02:36PM Oystein Reigem wrote:

Alberto,

Strange. It doesn't sound like a palette problem, like Victor suggests.

If you think it can be of any help you can mail me one of your image files and I'll see if the same thing happens here.

- Oystein -

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