Need server advice. OI16 and 32 (OpenInsight 16-Bit Specific)
At 27 AUG 2003 07:38:13AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
I have a customer who plan to upgrade their computer and network system to a Win2K based server system, except they'll use Win2K Pro stations not only for their 4-5 clients but also for the server.
Currently they run a 2-user 16-bit OI app with no networking product. In the future they might run a 4-user and/or 32-bit version. I doubt they'll use a networking product, but we can't know for sure.
Is there any reason I should warn them against using Win2K Pro for the server?
- Oystein -
At 27 AUG 2003 08:51AM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:
None spring to mind - that is our configuration, albeit with a Service running. Just don't run the OI16 on the server, it'll hog CPU.
The Sprezzatura Group
World Leaders in all things RevSoft
At 27 AUG 2003 08:55AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Sprezz,
OK. Thanks!
- Oystein -
At 27 AUG 2003 08:59AM Donald Bakke wrote:
Sprezz,
None spring to mind - that is our configuration, albeit with a Service running.
Just to confirm, you are using a Win2K Professional workstation as your server and you have the service running on this machine? Is it dedicated or does someone also use it as a workstation?
Thanks,
At 27 AUG 2003 09:44AM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:
Our turn to thank YOU. No you are right we are using a Win2K SERVER not PRO. Sorry Oy and thanks Don!
The Sprezzatura Group
World Leaders in all things RevSoft
At 27 AUG 2003 04:05PM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Don,
Just to confirm, you…
…or rather a client…
…are using…
…or rather plans to use…
a Win2K Professional workstation as your server
Yes.
and you have the service running on this machine?
Sorry for being dumb, but you have to tell me what you mean with "service".
Is it dedicated or does someone also use it as a workstation?
It's dedicated all right.
- Oystein -
At 27 AUG 2003 04:59PM Richard Bright wrote:
Oystein,
If this client is using a dedicated server why on earth dont they use Win2003 Server - millions of times better.
Specifically the shadow copy facility - for the client - would pay for the price difference (and some backup systems can use this - getting round the 24x7 availability issue. Also improved Terminal Services on Win2003 would be benefit for remote management.
Richard Bright
At 28 AUG 2003 04:00AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Richard,
If this client is using a dedicated server why on earth dont they use Win2003 Server - millions of times better.
The reason they consider a workstation version over a server version is the price. They say a Win2000 Pro workstation is much cheaper than a Win2000 Server. And that they don't need that extra power of the server version.
The reason they choose 2000 above XP is they feel the 2000 platform has proven itself while XP is not so well tested.
I don't know if they ever considered Win2003. I don't know that platform myself. Does it only come in a server version - not workstation? For all I know they may have rejected it because of price or because it's too new.
Specifically the shadow copy facility - for the client - would pay for the price difference (and some backup systems can use this - getting round the 24x7 availability issue. Also improved Terminal Services on Win2003 would be benefit for remote management.
I'll mention all of this when I speak to them again.
Thanks!
- Oystein -
At 28 AUG 2003 04:47AM Richard Bright wrote:
Yes. Emphasis is on security / stability. Microsoft trying to learn from past mistakes.
Yes I know this is not the right place to discuss other products … but just a clarification on the shadow copy. This feature provides the system with ability to automaticly do 'snapshots' of volume on a user defined schedule - say 7am in morning and noon. So if a dweeb deletes / modifies a file, same user (with security approval) can restore from a date catalog of copies of file. No need to get the backout tape out. Which version of the file do you want?… All at the click of a mouse. The importance of this feature for Revelation - high avalibility systems - is that some backup systems can use the shadow copy, if the real file is locked at that point in time - possibly avoiding our problem of data corruption. (Yet to test the claim myself).
Richard
At 28 AUG 2003 05:15AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Thank you all for useful input. But I might still need a reply to my original question: Can my client use a Win2K Pro Workstation as a server? (With or without a Revelation networking product.)
- Oystein -
At 28 AUG 2003 07:40AM Kevin Revelation wrote:
Oy,
I am aware of a number of sites that do this - with or without a Revelation Network Product.
Kevin
At 28 AUG 2003 07:53AM Don Miller - C3 Inc. wrote:
Oystein ..
Short and .. well maybe not so .. sweet. YES. I have at least 3 clients who use a Win2K workstation as a server (1 with and 2 without the Win2K service running).
Don M.
At 28 AUG 2003 08:33AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Kevin, Don,
Great. Thanks.
- Oystein -