AREV for Windows 95? (AREV Specific)
At 12 DEC 1998 12:26:43PM Robert Allison wrote:
I have AREV 2.1x that, to my knowledge only runs in DOS mode. It was great for program development for its many features. Although I have received much mail from Revelation, I am still unable to make the connection between AREV and OpenInsight, and I got lost. What I really want is a Windows 95/98 Arev, or upgrade. Please understand, I do not know a thing about OpenInsight, even after reading all the mail. Because of this lack of understanding, I have purchased Oracle and other products. But doing so has also made me understand and appreciate the complete product that AREV has been. If I can get there from here, I would like to get back to programming AREV again. As it is, I have felt like AREV users have been hung out to dry, by the introduction of something entirely different. Thank you for your response.
Robert Dave Allison
At 12 DEC 1998 07:14PM Don Bakke wrote:
Robert,
I'm confused by your comments and questions. Do you want to understand OpenInsight better, do you want to be able to run AREV under Windows 95/98, or something else altogether?
OpenInsight is a development tool which creates true MS Windows applications but still uses the classic linear hash data, dictionary, and index tables. OI goes far beyond this, in that it allows you to connect to structured data tables using ODBC and Dataset technology, it allows you to publish and have dynamic access to your linear hash data through the web, it provides a data wharehousing tool, it comes with a graphical report designer, it allows you to access Lotus Notes data, it allows you to access e-mail files through MAPI, and so on.
The bottom line is that there is a 1-to-1 analogy for the AREV developer to move into OpenInsight. Linear Hash tables, as previously mentioned, are the same. OI comes with a Form Designer to design your application windows which can be databound or non-databound (i.e. collector windows) - which replaces AREV's Paint. OI comes with a UI Workspace which allows you to create soft-coded MSG, POPUPS, and Help screens - which replaces the equivalent tools in AREV. OI has a System Editor which allows you to create Basic+ (a virtual twin brother to R/Basic) subroutines and functions and it also allows you to create/edit data rows in any table - which replaces AREV's editor. OI uses Events for hooking custom logic in your application windows - which replaces (and is more powerful than) the AREV window processes. OI has a visual "trace through" debugger - which replaces (and is a vast improvement to) the native AREV debugger.
Now if you still just want AREV, then you can develop and run it under Windows 95/98/NT. There are some networking products as well that boost its performance and stability under these operating systems.
Hope this sheds some light.
At 13 DEC 1998 05:14PM Tony Lillyman wrote:
Robert
Everything Donald said is true.
I was you two years ago!
Now, I'm just starting to get my mind around the Web Publishing side of things and I haven't touched ODBC or Data Sets or even Notes.
As with AREV there is much more than I ever used in the last 10 years but that's the beauty of the thing. If you have the *time*, there is so much more there to get in to. My goal is functionality first, asthetics second.
Re the transition from AREV to OI - its a learning curve. The hardest part I found was getting the concept of Events and Event Handling. Once you get that you can basically translate your AREV coding to OI.
Some variables arent available, but there are plenty of *good* minds on this site regularly.
Hope this helps
Tony