What does "VOC" stand for? (AREV Specific) [Revelation On-Line Wiki]

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At 03 DEC 2003 04:42:08PM Michael Slack wrote:

AREV Specific

I was just asked what "VOC" stands for or what is it short for and it dawned on me that I don't know. I haven't found any documentation that gives any expanded definition. The person doing the asking would like to know for some documentation they are writing and I'd like to know for my own curriosity. I know what the VOC is but is there more to it? Does it stand for Volume Options Commands or Verb Options Commands. I've seen it refered to as VOCLIB for VOC Library.

Thanks,

Michael Slack

At 03 DEC 2003 05:04PM Bill Titus wrote:

Just short for "vocabulary," I believe.

At 03 DEC 2003 05:34PM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:

That is indeed it - taken from the old PICK file of the same name. For compatibility with other PICK versions this is also known as the MD (Master Dictionary) file.

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At 03 DEC 2003 05:53PM Victor Engel wrote:

I guess this is sort of like the GIF pronunciation issue, except that the pronunciation of GIF is specified in the definition (soft G even though the G stands for Graphics, which has a hard G).

Anyway, I've heard people pronounce VOC both as VOKE and VOCK. I use the former on the premise that it is short for vocabulary. How about the rest of you?

At 03 DEC 2003 06:04PM Michael Slack wrote:

Thanks everyone, now I can sleep easy.

Michael Slack

At 03 DEC 2003 06:24PM Donald Bakke wrote:

VOC=Voke

GIF=JIF (as in the peanut butter)

dbakke@srpcs.com

SRP Computer Solutions, Inc.

At 03 DEC 2003 07:40PM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:

Well I pronounce vocabulary as VOCK being a Limey Northener…

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At 03 DEC 2003 09:01PM Mike Ruane wrote:

VOCK

As it seems to standalone as a word.

At 03 DEC 2003 09:34PM Donald Bakke wrote:

Mike,

I think that's just your New Jersey accent.

dbakke@srpcs.com

SRP Computer Solutions, Inc.

At 04 DEC 2003 01:30PM Steve Smith wrote:

I'm not asking what you like by way of fizzy drinks….

At 04 DEC 2003 01:57PM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:

- diet pepsi

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At 04 DEC 2003 03:44PM Paxton Scott wrote:

Definately VOKE. Pure mid-western accent. But sure need a spell checker

paxton@arcscustomsoftware.com

ARCS, Inc.

At 04 DEC 2003 09:40PM Jim Eagan wrote:

voke - never heard otherwise in any previuos environment.

Always believed it was an abrev of "vocabulary"

Amazing that we are now discussing this after ???? years

At 05 DEC 2003 03:13AM dsig@sigafoos.org wrote:

hmm .. not to correct anyone from sprezz but PICK has always had MD for master dictionary.

Prime's Information had the VOC file. And as we all know Revelation, the grandfather of OI (did you hear that JA) was a clone of Information.

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At 05 DEC 2003 04:58AM Tim Marler wrote:

VOC=VOCK

GIF=GIF (as in GIF me another beer please, barman) :~}

At 05 DEC 2003 07:22AM Don Miller - C3 Inc. wrote:

And back when I was working on writing the Microdata Reality implementation of Pick .. now that was a time ago .. there was this same debate. Dick Pick used MD (Master Dictionary) and Microdata adopted Vocabulary (VOC). To my knowledge, that was the first time VOC reared it's head .. but then again, it was not called Pick either .. it was English. I also think that this was the first implementation of the LIST verb that featured "throw-away" words too.

Don M.

At 05 DEC 2003 08:11AM dsig@sigafoos.org wrote:

the problem on this list is that there are still some of us that remember this stuff. You are correct. It was Microdata first.

Prime did use VOC also and since Revelation is a direct rip off of Prime I had left it at that .. incomplete and caught out again

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At 05 DEC 2003 10:31AM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:

Question is - is it apocryphal that Rev B manuals were PR1ME manuals with the PR1ME trademarks tippexed out? I don't know 'cos I didn't start until Release C…

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At 05 DEC 2003 12:35PM Gray Cunningham wrote:

VOCK…must be the British influence on us Canadians.

At 05 DEC 2003 01:18PM Don Miller - C3 Inc. wrote:

No, it is not apocrophyal. There was a lot of white-out used in those days. I remember Mike Nourse, Roger Harpel and I went around sticking to everything. The worst part of that process, is that the pages would stick together so it was back to the Xerox and White Out again. Somewhere (and I don't know where right now), I have my original 8" diskettes and the 5.25" semi-release version. I remember that the original REV that I worked on still used the "C" and "D" notation for multi-values. Then came the MV1.1, 1.2, etc. nomenclature that never got fully implemented.

This discussion can probably lead to uncontrollable drooling, etc.

Don M.

At 05 DEC 2003 01:44PM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:

We want MN.N back!!! (Consider this an enhancement request! And while we're at it use a field to indicate that this is a foreign key to another table - this'll make automatic schema generation easier! Wow this knowing the product is evolving again feeling is soooo cool!

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At 05 DEC 2003 01:47PM The Sprezzatura Group wrote:

man walks into a bar…. http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread/t-38248.html

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At 05 DEC 2003 02:19PM Aaron Kaplan wrote:

In that case, I'll have to vote for Voke, just to counter Tim. After all, he'd expect nothing less :)

At 05 DEC 2003 02:22PM Aaron Kaplan wrote:

There were some Prime manuals inside Cosmos binders with Cosmos copywrites floating around Cambridge before I left. Had chicken scratching all over them, and all sorts of mean, nasty, ugly things.

Take it for what it's worth.