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At 24 MAY 1999 06:34:19PM Robert Baker wrote:

We just bought a Dell Inspiron 7000 Laptop and cannot get emm386.exe to load unless we set it to: emm386.exe /frame=none auto. When we set it like that AREV won't load. Dell wasn't much help and said to send the laptop back. Any suggestions?

Robert Baker

BC Laboratories, Inc.


At 25 MAY 1999 02:06PM akaplan@sprezzatura.com - [url=http://www.sprezzatura.com]Sprezzatura Group[/url] wrote:

Not that it's any help, but I know of people that have had the same trouble with Gateways. It's pretty much on the hardware folks, unless you can find some HIMEM machine setting.

akaplan@sprezzatura.com

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At 26 MAY 1999 11:31AM Tony Marler @ Prosolve wrote:

What happens if you try the RAM setting in emm386 ?

Tony


At 26 MAY 1999 04:28PM Robert Baker wrote:

If I use device=c:\windows\emm386.exe ram 2048, emm386 won't load. It will only load if I set it to frame=none auto. AREV does not like that last one.


At 26 MAY 1999 04:58PM akaplan@sprezzatura.com - [url=http://www.sprezzatura.com]Sprezzatura Group[/url] wrote:

Don't know if this helps, but here's some detailed command line options for EMM386.EXE and HIMEM.SYS. Remember, if you load EMM386.EXE in your CONFIG.SYS, you must load HIMEM.SYS as well.

You also might want to try adding DOS=HIGH,UMB as well.

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EMM386.EXE

==========

Provides access to the upper memory area and uses extended memory to

simulate expanded memory. This device driver must be loaded by a DEVICE

command in your CONFIG.SYS file and can be used only on computers with an

80386 or higher processor.

EMM386 uses extended memory to simulate expanded memory for programs that

can use expanded memory. EMM386 also makes it possible to load programs and

device drivers into upper memory blocks (UMBs).

Syntax

  DEVICE=drive:pathEMM386.EXE ON|OFF|AUTO memory MIN=size
  W=ON|W=OFF Mx|FRAME=address|/Pmmmm Pn=address X=mmmm-nnnn
  I=mmmm-nnnn B=address L=minXMS A=altregs H=handles D=nnn
  RAM=mmmm-nnnn NOEMS NOVCPI HIGHSCAN VERBOSE WIN=mmmm-nnnn
  NOHI ROM=mmmm-nnnn NOMOVEXBDA ALTBOOT NOBACKFILL

Parameters

drive:path

  Specifies the location of the EMM386.EXE file.

ON|OFF|AUTO

  Activates the EMM386 device driver (if set to ON), or suspends the
  EMM386 device driver (if set to OFF), or places the EMM386 device driver
  in auto mode (if set to AUTO). Auto mode enables expanded-memory support
  and upper memory block support only when a program calls for it. The
  default value is ON. Use the EMM386 command to change this value after
  EMM386 has started.

memory

  Specifies the maximum amount of extended memory (in kilobytes) that you
  want EMM386 to provide as expanded/Virtual Control Program Interface
  (EMS/VCPI) memory. This amount is in addition to the memory used for
  UMBs and EMM386 itself. Values for memory are in the range 64 through
  the lesser of either 32768 or the amount of extended memory available
  when EMM386 is loaded. The default value is the amount of free extended
  memory. If you specify the NOEMS switch, the default value is 0. EMM386
  rounds the value down to the nearest multiple of 16.

Switches

MIN=size

  Specifies the minimum amount of EMS/VCPI memory (in kilobytes) that
  EMM386 will provide, if that amount of memory is available. EMM386
  reserves this amount of extended memory for use as EMS/VCPI memory when
  EMM386 is loaded by the DEVICE=EMM386.EXE command in your CONFIG.SYS
  file. EMM386 may be able to provide additional EMS/VCPI memory (up to
  the amount specified by the MEMORY parameter) if sufficient XMS memory
  is available when a program requests EMS/VCPI memory. Values are in the
  range 0 through the value specified by the MEMORY parameter. The default
  value is 256. If you specify the NOEMS switch, the default value is 0.
  If the value of MIN is greater than the value of MEMORY, EMM386 uses the
  value specified by MIN.

W=ON|W=OFF

  Enables or disables support for the Weitek co-processor. The default
  setting is W=OFF.

Mx

  Specifies the address of the page frame. Valid values for x are in the
  range 1 through 14. The following list shows each value and its
  associated base address in hexadecimal format:
          1 =] C000h     8 =] DC00h
          2 =] C400h     9 =] E000h
          3 =] C800h    10 =] 8000h
          4 =] CC00h    11 =] 8400h
          5 =] D000h    12 =] 8800h
          6 =] D400h    13 =] 8C00h
          7 =] D800h    14 =] 9000h
  Values in the range 10 through 14 should be used only on computers that
  have 512K of memory.

FRAME=address

  Specifies the page-frame segment base directly. To specify a specific
  segment-base address for the page frame, use the FRAME switch, and
  specify the address you want. Valid values for address are in the ranges
  8000h through 9000h and C000h through E000h, in increments of 400h. To
  provide expanded memory and disable the page frame, you can specify
  FRAME=NONE; however, this may cause some programs that require expanded
  memory to work improperly.

/Pmmmm

  Specifies the address of the page frame. Valid values for mmmm are in
  the ranges 8000h through 9000h and C000h through E000h, in increments of
  400h.

Pn=address

  Specifies the segment address of a specific page, where n is the number
  of the page you are specifying and address is the segment address you
  want. Valid values for n are in the range 0 through 255. Valid values
  for address are in the ranges 8000h through 9C00h and C000h through
  EC00h, in increments of 400h. The addresses for pages 0 through 3 must
  be contiguous in order to maintain compatibility with version 3.2 of the
  Lotus/Intel/Microsoft Expanded Memory Specification (LIM EMS). If you
  use the Mx switch, the FRAME switch, or the /Pmmmm switch, you cannot
  specify the addresses for pages 0 through 3 for the /Pmmmm switch.

X=mmmm-nnnn

  Prevents EMM386 from using a particular range of segment addresses for
  an EMS page or for UMBs. Valid values for mmmm and nnnn are in the range
  A000h through FFFFh and are rounded down to the nearest 4-kilobyte
  boundary. The X switch takes precedence over the I switch if the two
  ranges overlap.

I=mmmm-nnnn

  Specifies a range of segment addresses to be used (included) for an EMS
  page or for UMBs. Valid values for mmmm and nnnn are in the range A000h
  through FFFFh and are rounded down to the nearest 4-kilobyte boundary.
  The X switch takes precedence over the I switch if the two ranges
  overlap.

B=address

  Specifies the lowest segment address available for EMS "banking"
  (swapping of 16KB pages). Valid values are in the range 1000h
  through 4000h. The default value is 4000h.

l=minXMS

  Ensures that the specified amount (in kilobytes) of extended memory will
  still be available after EMM386 is loaded. The default value is 0.

A=altregs

  Specifies how many fast alternate register sets (used for multitasking)
  you want to allocate to EMM386. Valid values are in the range 0 through
  254. The default value is 7. Every alternate register set adds about 200
  bytes to the size in memory of EMM386.

H=handles

  Specifies how many handles EMM386 can use. Valid values are in the range
  2 through 255. The default value is 64.

D=nnn

  Specifies how many kilobytes of memory should be reserved for buffered
  direct memory access (DMA). Discounting floppy disk DMA, this value
  should reflect the largest DMA transfer that will occur while EMM386 is
  active. Valid values for nnn are in the range 16 through 256. The
  default value is 32.

RAM=mmmm-nnnn

  Specifies a range of segment addresses to be used for UMBs and also
  enables EMS support. If you do not specify a range, EMM386 uses all
  available adapter space to create UMBs and a page frame for EMS.

NOEMS

  Provides access to the upper memory area but prevents access to expanded
  memory.

NOVCPI

  Disables support for VCPI programs. This switch must be used with
  the NOEMS switch. If you specify the NOVCPI switch without specifying
  the NOEMS switch, EMM386 does not disable VCPI support. If you specify
  both switches, EMM386 disregards the MEMORY parameter and the MIN
  switch. Disabling support for VCPI programs reduces the amount of
  extended memory allocated.

HIGHSCAN

  Specifies that EMM386 use an additional check to determine the
  availablity of upper memory for use as UMBs or EMS windows. On some
  computers, specifying this switch may have no effect or cause EMM386 to
  identify upper memory areas as available when they are not. As a
  result, your computer might stop responding.

VERBOSE

  Directs EMM386 to display status and error messages while loading. By
  default, EMM386 displays messages only if it encounters an error
  condition. You can abbreviate VERBOSE as V. (To display status messages
  without adding the VERBOSE switch, press and hold down the ALT key 
  while EMM386 starts and loads.)

WIN=mmmm-nnnn

  Reserves a specified range of segment addresses for Windows instead of
  for EMM386. Valid values for mmmm and nnnn are in the range A000h
  through FFFFh and are rounded down to the nearest 4-kilobyte boundary.
  The X switch takes precedence over the WIN switch if the two ranges
  overlap. The WIN switch takes precedence over the RAM, ROM, and I
  switches if their ranges overlap.

NOHI

  Prevents EMM386 from loading into the upper memory area. Normally, a
  portion of EMM386 is loaded into upper memory. Specifying this switch
  decreases available conventional memory and increases the upper memory
  area available for UMBs.

ROM=mmmm-nnnn

  Specifies a range of segment addresses that EMM386 uses for shadow
  RAM--random-access memory used for read-only memory (ROM). Valid values
  for mmmm and nnnn are in the range A000h through FFFFh and are rounded
  down to the nearest 4-kilobyte boundary. Specifying this switch may
  speed up your system if it does not already have shadow RAM.

NOMOVEXBDA

  Prevents EMM386 from moving the extended BIOS data from conventional
  memory to upper memory.

ALTBOOT

  Specifies that EMM386 use an alternate handler to restart your computer
  when you press CTRL+ALT+DEL. Use this switch only if your computer stops
  responding or exhibits other unusual behavior when EMM386 is loaded and
  you press CTRL+ALT+DEL.

NOBACKFILL

  When EMM386 is configured to provide upper memory blocks (by using the
  NOEMS or RAM switches), EMM386 will also automatically backfill
  conventional memory if there is less than 640k, in order to bring total
  conventional memory up to 640k.  However, because Windows does not
  support backfilled conventional memory, use the NOBACKFILL switch if
  your computer has less than 640K of conventional memory.

HIMEM.SYS

=========

HIMEM is an extended-memory manager–a program that coordinates the use of

your computer's extended memory, including the high memory area (HMA), so

that no two programs or device drivers use the same memory at the same

time.

You install HIMEM by adding a DEVICE command for HIMEM.SYS to your

CONFIG.SYS file. The HIMEM.SYS command line must come before any commands

that start programs or device drivers that use extended memory; for

example, the HIMEM.SYS command line must come before the EMM386.EXE command

line.

Syntax

  DEVICE=drive:pathHIMEM.SYS /A20CONTROL:ON|OFF /CPUCLOCK:ON|OFF
  /EISA /HMAMIN=m /INT15=xxxx /MACHINE:xxxx /NOABOVE16 /NOEISA
  /NUMHANDLES=n /SHADOWRAM:ON|OFF /TESTMEM:ON|OFF /VERBOSE /X

In most cases, you won't need to specify command-line options. The default

values for HIMEM.SYS are designed to work with most hardware.

Parameter

drive:path

  Specifies the location of the HIMEM.SYS file. HIMEM.SYS should always be
  located on the same drive that contains your MS-DOS files. If the
  HIMEM.SYS file is in the root directory of your startup drive, you don't
  need to include a path. However, you must always include the complete
  filename (HIMEM.SYS).

Switches

/A20CONTROL:ON|OFF

  Specifies whether HIMEM is to take control of the A20 line even if A20
  was on when HIMEM was loaded. The A20 handler gives your computer access
  to the HMA. If you specify /A20CONTROL:OFF, HIMEM takes control of the
  A20 line only if A20 was off when HIMEM was loaded. The default setting
  is /A20CONTROL:ON.

/CPUCLOCK:ON|OFF

  Specifies whether HIMEM is to affect the clock speed of your computer.
  If your computer's clock speed changes when you install HIMEM,
  specifying /CPUCLOCK:ON may correct the problem; however, enabling this
  option slows down HIMEM. The default setting is /CPUCLOCK:OFF.

/EISA

  Specifies that HIMEM should allocate all available extended memory. This
  switch is necessary only on an EISA (Extended Industry Standard
  Architecture) computer with more than 16 MB of memory; on other
  computers, HIMEM automatically allocates all available extended memory.

/HMAMIN=m

  Specifies how many kilobytes of memory a program must require for
  HIMEM to give that program use of the HMA. Only one program can
  use the HMA at a time; HIMEM allocates the HMA to the first program
  that meets the memory-use requirements set by this option. You can
  specify a value from 0 to 63.
  Set /HMAMIN to the amount of memory required by the program that
  uses the most HMA memory.
  The /HMAMIN option is not required; the default value is zero. Omitting
  this option (or setting it to zero) specifies that HIMEM allocate the
  HMA to the first program that requests it, regardless of how much of
  the HMA the program is going to use.
  The /HMAMIN option has no effect when Windows is running in 386 Enhanced
  mode.

/INT15=xxxx

  Allocates the amount of extended memory (in kilobytes) to be reserved
  for the Interrupt 15h interface. Some older programs use the
  Interrupt 15h interface to allocate extended memory rather than using
  the XMS (eXtended-Memory Specification) method provided by HIMEM. If you
  use these programs, you can ensure enough memory is available to
  them by setting xxxx to 64 KB larger than the amount required by the
  program.
  You can specify a value from 64 to 65535; however, you cannot specify
  more memory than your system has available. If you specify a value less
  than 64, the value becomes 0. The default value is 0.

/MACHINE:xxxx

  Specifies what type of computer you are using. Usually, HIMEM can detect
  your computer type successfully; however, there are a few computers that
  HIMEM cannot detect. On such systems, HIMEM uses the default system type
  (IBM AT or compatible). You might need to include the /MACHINE option if
  your computer is a type that HIMEM cannot detect and if HIMEM does not
  work properly on your system by using the default system type.
  Currently, systems that require this option include Acer 1100, Wyse, and
  IBM 7552.
  The value for xxxx can be any of the codes or their equivalent numbers
  listed in the following table.

Code Number Computer type


at 1 IBM AT or 100% compatible

ps2 2 IBM PS/2

ptlcascade 3 Phoenix Cascade BIOS

hpvectra 4 HP Vectra (A & A+)

att6300plus 5 AT&T 6300 Plus

acer1100 6 Acer 1100

toshiba 7 Toshiba 1600 & 1200XE

wyse 8 Wyse 12.5 Mhz 286

tulip 9 Tulip SX

zenith 10 Zenith ZBIOS

at1 11 IBM PC/AT (alternative delay)

at2 12 IBM PC/AT (alternative delay)

css 12 CSS Labs

at3 13 IBM PC/AT (alternative delay)

philips 13 Philips

fasthp 14 HP Vectra

ibm7552 15 IBM 7552 Industrial Computer

bullmicral 16 Bull Micral 60

dell 17 Dell XBIOS

/NOABOVE16

  Specifies not to use INT 15h (ax==E801h) Compaq Bigmem support to scan 
  for extended memory.

/NOEISA

  Specifies that HIMEM should not do EISA scanning for extended memory.

/NUMHANDLES=n

  Specifies the maximum number of extended-memory block (EMB) handles that
  can be used simultaneously. You can specify a value from 1 to 128; the
  default value is 32. Each additional handle requires an additional 6
  bytes of memory.
  The /NUMHANDLES option has no effect when Windows is running in 386 
  Enhanced mode.

/SHADOWRAM:ON|OFF

  Specifies whether to disable shadow RAM (SHADOWRAM:OFF) or to leave the
  ROM code running from RAM (SHADOWRAM:ON).
  Some computers make ROM code run faster by "shadowing" it in RAM--that
  is, by copying the ROM code into faster RAM memory at startup, which
  uses some extended memory. On computers that use shadow RAM and have
  less than 2 MB of RAM, HIMEM usually attempts to disable shadow RAM to
  recover additional extended memory for Windows to use. (HIMEM can
  disable shadow RAM only on certain types of systems.) When HIMEM
  disables shadow RAM, the ROM code runs in the slower ROM instead of RAM;
  therefore, your computer might run slightly slower than it did before.

/TESTMEM:ON|OFF

  Determines whether HIMEM performs a memory test when your computer
  starts. By default, HIMEM tests the reliability of your computer's
  extended memory each time your computer starts. This test can identify
  memory that is no longer reliable; unreliable memory can cause system
  instability or loss of data. HIMEM's memory test is more thorough than
  the standard power-up memory test performed by most computers. To
  prevent HIMEM from performing the memory test, specify /TESTMEM:OFF.
  Disabling the memory test will shorten the startup process. (The default
  setting is /TESTMEM:ON.)

/VERBOSE

  Directs HIMEM to display status and error messages while loading. By
  default, HIMEM does not display any messages unless it encounters an
  error. You can abbreviate /VERBOSE as /V. (To display status messages
  without adding the /VERBOSE switch, press and hold the ALT key while
  HIMEM starts and loads.)

/X

  Specifies not to use INT 15h (ax==E820h), the latest extended memory 
  support API.

At 27 MAY 1999 04:27AM Ashley Chapman wrote:

I had a client who had the same (or very similar) problem with a dell notebook. She sent it back, and dell tinkered with its internals, and it now works perfectly.

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