All things being equal how come an appbackup -] restore (no data tables) takes 4+ times longer to restore on a Windows Server than Novell?

All things not being equal (Novell 4.x, old processor, slower bus etc. vs. Win2000/2003 server 2.4g 1g ram etc.) how come an appbackup -] restore (no data tables) takes 4+ times longer to restore on a Windows Server than Novell?

I have benchmarked this several times. Is there something I can do to speed this up? This is the same if adding a new app. or updating and existing one. I understand the need for some file sizing on the fly but for an upgrade that wouldn't be that much. Also, I am assuming that not much locking is going on as no one else is connected (actually it is slow on a stand-alone system too).

All things being equal….

That's just it. You're comparing apples with oranges.

Novell is designed as a Network operating system, whereas

Windows is designed as a platform for solitaire.exe

Yes, but I thought it was for freecell.

I agree, but my curiosity was because the difference is so dramatic.

15mins on Netware and 2+ hrs. on Windows.

If you think about how your machine moves, imagine what would happen if a bunch of people were trying to use it at the same time. That's a Windows Server. The server you have is no different than the OS running on your desktop, for the most part. It's just a slower network. I can put a Porsche engine into my bug, and while it might go faster than it did before, it still won't go as fast as the Porsche.

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Darn! I was always under the impression a Porsche was just a Bug with a more expensive exoskeleton.

Solitare! All I can play on mine is BSD.

But is it NetBSD or FreeBSD?

*grin*

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Interesting. So it is simply a matter of the NOS code? I am surprised that a 1972 bug (NT 4.x/3.51) would be compared to a 2002 Beetle (Win200x) even if comparing a Porche Special or 911T and a new Porche. The speed difference of the 1972 bug vs. 1972 Porche is far greater than a new Bug vs. new Porche.

The new Beetle is just a Passat. It might be a Beetle, but it's not a bug. And for the record, mine's a 74 super. And while a bug looks cool (in my personal opinion) they're not the most areodynamic cars ever designed. You can do 150mph+ in a converted bug though, and I've topped mine out at 90.

But for the tech question at hand, yes, it's really a difference in the OS code. Windows has so much overhead that it's just not viable as a NOS when speed is your primary convern. Generally though, if you spend some time determining what your server uses and it's memory requirements, you can generally double it's speed by removing unneeded services and making registry changes to enhance caching to your benefit.

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I was thinking more a circa 50's Bug & Porsche. Both were designed by Dr. Ferdi himself after all.

A 74 Super! Excellent. Is it the bright yellow version? We had one of those in 76. I'm pretty partial to the 60's version. Chrome bumpers, window trim, headlights. Also the oval back window. I really liked the split back window but I believe that was pre-60's.

Would be curious to know what services you felt were not needed (other than the obvious ones messenger etal) and what to look for in the registry keys.

Thanks for the replies.

Loads of servces aren't needed..automatic updates, media center serial numbers come to mind. I don't remember what they are, but some google searches on XP tweaks will give you reams of conflicting information on what to do. It's basically a hit or miss thing and it is very machine specific.

But, for more important things, just a bit of the back, but you can get an idea of what she looks like.

She's got the chrome bumpers and all that, but no pop-out windows, which I should have had put in when I restored her, but didn't becuase I couldn't find all the parts and was impatient.

I think they stopped the oval windows in the early 60's. I'm looking to pick up a "new" one now that I'm moving, and I'd like to get a late 50's model. On the other hand, I'm thinking about getting a type II microbus instead.

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might go as fast as my porsche

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Downhill, off a cliff, yeah, but not otherwise.

Now when I get that camper later this year, well, I still won't be able to shove a porsche engine in there, but I'll be able to hold more people :)

I probably told this to you before, but I'll post it just for those that never heard the story.

My dad has a 71 bug for a number of years. The floor panels had rusted out, and a good chunk of the underbody needed welding, and it could use a new engine. By the time I was 15, the floor had so many holes you could put your feet through it onto the ground. I'm amazed it passed Pennsylvania's inspection requirements.

Anyway, one day, he was driving me and some friends somewhere, but he needed to stop somewhere first, so we're sitting in the parking lot waiting, when we decide that we should be able to lift the car up from the inside, which is what we did, so Dad comes out of the store and see us inside the car, with it off the ground, walking around the parking lot Flinstone's style.

He scrapped it the next day.

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