Expanded memory manager for PENTIUM II and III on AREV (AREV Specific)
At 27 JUL 2000 12:45:24PM Luis Manuel Meza Barraza (STECKERL e HIJOS S.A. B-quilla - COLOMBIA) wrote:
Hi, excuseme by my poor english.
We have a problem because the expanded memory manager (QEMM 8.0) on PC with PENTIUM II 450 Mhz SYSTEM or PENTIUM III 550 Mhz, with mainboard INTEL SE440SBX, and 32 or 64 MB RAM, and D.O.S. 6.22.
AREV 3.11 250 users serial 17917, Novell 4.1 50 users.
When AREV execute, only recognize 200k maxim of free memory, and we programs or windows templates not run. (Memory insuficient.)
In other PC with PENTIUM CELERON 333Mhz or minus NOT HAVE PROBLEM.
Can you help me?
Thank you by your comments, sincerely.
Luis Meza Barraza.
At 27 JUL 2000 01:42PM Don Bakke wrote:
Luis,
If you can access the TCL window (press ) from AREV on these workstations type the word WHO and press .
Do you show that Expanded Memory is Active? If you page down twice, what does the EM Used and EM Allocated values show?
Machines that don't correctly have Expanded Memory activated/configured typically don't have very much Available memory either. QEMM is a good product, but it might not be working correctly here.
At 27 JUL 2000 01:50PM Don Miller - C3 Inc. wrote:
QEMM is probably not configured correctly. First try disabling it and using the Microsoft Memory Manager..
Go into your QEMM directory and use the REMOVE option to remove QEMM from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT
CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=EMM386.EXE … Make sure that the NOEMS parmater is not set
* any other device drivers in config.sys
DOS=HIGH
*
Edit your AUTOEXEC.BAT file and make sure that no QEMM LOADHI statements are there. Also check all CALLed BATCH files (STARTNET, etc.). For the time being remove all loadhi statements to load everything into conventional memory.
Next, run MEMMAKER to setup the best environment it can. Make sure that you respond with "Y" to the question regarding Expanded Memory. You may or may not want to use the /HIGHSCAN option on MEMMAKER's command line.
Now see if you can start your app with enough memory:
AREV /M4096X
At the TCL type WHO to make sure that EMS is enabled and that no more than 4096K is allocated.
Save your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files.
Next, try to re-install QEMM by using OPTIMIZE in the QEMM directory. It should notice that you are using the Microsoft memory manager and will offer to install QEMM. Do not enable the STEALTH option on the first try. Just try to get it to scan your memory and locate available memory regions. If things work properly, re-run OPTIMIZE and then try STEALTH M. If this works you're home free, otherwise restore your previous configuration. I don't recommend using the F (Frame) mode of STEALTH on Pentium processors.
Hope this is useful
Don Miller
C3 Inc.
At 27 JUL 2000 02:37PM Warren wrote:
I'm running DOS 6.22 QEMM97 (aka QEMM 9.0) on a Pentium III 450 on an ASUS P3B-F motherboard (440BX chipset). With Netware drivers loaded I have 500-560KB conventional memory.
You can probably just skip to the OPTIMIZE step as optimize will add in any of the entries it needs to run.
You may try using the /AUTO switch which will test for hardware exceptions if OPTIMIZE freezes up at any point.
At 27 JUL 2000 03:12PM Don Miller - C3 Inc. wrote:
OK .. Here's what I get on my box:
MS-DOS memory with crappy WIN 3.1 but lots of Netware drivers (VLM's) loaded:
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
Memory Summary:
Type of Memory Total = Used + Free
Press any key to continue . . .
And here's the LOADHI stats:
Altogether none too shabby
Region Area Size Status
1 B000 - B3D8 15K Used (QEMM386)1 B3D9 - B3E6 0.2K Used (DOS-UP)1 B3E7 - B531 5.1K Used (DOSDATA)1 B532 - B635 4K Used (FILES)1 B636 - B6C5 2.2K Used (LASTDRIV)1 B6C6 - B782 2.9K Used (STACKS)1 B783 - B7FE 1.9K Used (UMB)2 D001 - D2AA 10K Used (MTMCDAI)2 D2AB - D2E7 0.9K Used (FCBS)2 D2E8 - D308 0.5K Used (WKBUFFER)2 D309 - D312 0.1K Used (INSTALL)2 D313 - D3B8 2.5K Used (COMMAND)2 D3B9 - D3C3 0.1K Used (UMB)2 D3C4 - DAA9 27K Used (SMARTDRV)2 DAAA - DE88 15K Used (MSCDEX)2 DE89 - DE95 0.1K Used (UMB)2 DE96 - DF98 4K Used (DOSKEY)2 DF99 - E3B9 16K Used (MOUSE)2 E3BA - E3C7 0.2K Used (UMB)2 E3C8 - E516 5.2K Used (LSL)2 E517 - E69C 6K Used (NE2000)2 E69D - EAA9 16K Used (IPXODI)2 EAAA - F34C 34K Used (VLM)2 F34D - F5CE 10K Used (VLM)2 F5CF - F86A 10K Used (QSCHED)2 F86B - F8FE 2.2K Available3 FF00 - FFA5 2.5K Available
Must admit .. took some tweaking to get there
Don Miller
C3 Inc.
At 27 JUL 2000 06:03PM Warren wrote:
Excuse me? Crappy WIN 3.1? A Microsoft product crappy?
Anyway, that's the wonderful thing about QEMM is you can tweak like crazy and get up to an average of 620KB of conventional memory for most configurations.
Since I added Novell's TCP/IP stack and switched to a PCI soundcard (the device driver will load high but not run) the best I can get is about 560KB but I haven't really tried tweaking it yet (disk upgrade has consumed my time.).