Directory Mod Dates (AREV Specific)
At 05 OCT 1998 01:08:20PM Victor Engel wrote:
I've recently noticed that directory modification dates have been changing. I contacted our network folks who informed me the problem is that when a Netware 4.1 server is attached, the directories used are then flagged with the current date/time. This does not seem to happen in response to HR-1 activity, and the date/time stamps are invariably around 1 to 2 in the morning, which would seem to indicate some sort of infrastructure activity. What else should I be looking at?
At 05 OCT 1998 01:49PM Lauren Floyd wrote:
How about overnight backups setting archive attributes or something like that??
Lauren
At 05 OCT 1998 03:14PM Victor Engel wrote:
Why would setting attributes update the date time/stamp?
At 06 OCT 1998 04:18AM Steve Smith wrote:
I have a utility to reveal the last date & time accessed, or you can use NDIR /A (or 4.x equivalent) to display the owner. This will tell you the culprit.
The DOS file attributes (RASHV) occupy the lowest 5 bits of 8 bits from a Novell directory entry. Novell attribute for shareable, if I recall correctly occupies the highest bit and is set from the flag routine. Other Novell attributes occupy another FAT entry position and are accessed separately (by another call).
This rings vague bells as a Novell bug so check the Novell site for any patches.
Steve
At 06 OCT 1998 03:19PM Victor Engel wrote:
Interesting. NDIR /A produces an empty list. However NDIR with no params (as I'm used to using) produces a list showing the owner. All owners are normal and include, for example, a user who has been on maternity leave for several weeks, yet the date/time stamp was still modified. Could there be a problem with running tools across netware versions perhaps? Is your utility posted on your site? If so I'll check it out.
At 06 OCT 1998 04:45PM Steve Smith wrote:
NDIR or FILER.EXE (/NWADMIN) does what my utility does, so perhaps in this case let's not introduce random factors . The utility is on my site, gets date and time accessed (it accepts wildcards for < 8 kB of data returned) but without the owner returned. I have that routine here, although this week I corrupted my PC HDD so I'm "running on three cylinders" at present.
Sounds like a backup or virus scan, or as you say, a 3.x/4.x Netware issue. Wild guess - if you are using only NDS try Bindery/NDS together.
Steve
At 07 OCT 1998 11:32AM ed Mantz wrote:
Changing the attributes of a file in a subdirectory causes the time/date on that subdirectory to change. However actually modifing a file (by editing it) in a subdirectory which in turn causes the file's time/date to change DOES NOT change the subdirectory's time /date. This happens on both my 3.12 and 4.11 servers ( I did not check my 3.11 server). Since it happens on my old server it has been going on all the time & I probably just never noticed it before (also my file attributes don't change much as my backup program doesnot change the archive bit).
As to why - I don't know - just never really thought about it.
ed