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At 25 SEP 1998 10:20:50AM Victor Engel wrote:

I know this is a Windows 95 issue, but perhaps someone here knows a solution. I have a shortcut defined for Arev, and strangely, sometimes when I run it, despite the fact the shortcut is defined with "Always suspend" unchecked, when I check the properties of the running window, it's checked. If I log off and then check the properties of the shortcut again, sometimes it's now checked and sometimes not. Making the shortcut read-only has no effect. Deleting the shortcut and creating a new one also has no effect. The problem seems to be mostly random, although I don't think I've seen it screw up on the first time I ran the program after booting. I'm betting I'm going to have to reinstall Windows 95, although that was done just last week.


At 25 SEP 1998 02:26PM Anne Belsito wrote:

I too had experienced this in the past. It was not just AREV dos application.. I could reproduce this same behavior with just a regular Dos Prompt box.

I think that I resolved this by disabling any "Power Managment" on the computer. I mostly saw this with laptops.  

Hope this helps!


At 25 SEP 1998 05:00PM Victor Engel wrote:

I'll give that a shot. I do have a laptop, and I'll check about power management. Any idea why power management would have anything to do with shortcuts? My suspicion at this point is that if your suggestion works it's only because both items are affected by the same thread of problems somehow. I have other problems, too, like fonts not showing up properly, performance going down, etc.


At 25 SEP 1998 05:35PM Don Bakke wrote:

While we're on the subject of listing our favorite gripes about Win95/98, I would like to know why it can't remember the icon settings for my desktop folders. I generally like to use large icons w/o the web view. Almost once a week I'll go back and sure enough everything is in list format and web view enabled.

dbakke@srpcs.com

SRP Computer Solutions


At 25 SEP 1998 08:26PM ed mantz wrote:

I have run into problems like this as well. It seems that I have duplicate but different settings and that is the case. It seems that at times Windows uses the desktop image saved in user subdirectory in the profiles instead of reading from the network drive. Indeed, I have gone into the registery (manully and via TWEAKUI) and reset the location for Desktop, my documants, programs, startup folders to be the network drive. But lo & behold, for some reason and at some point they get changed back to the windows default. Therefore all of my settings are not remember from session to session. it does seem to be random.

However, I have not had the shortcut change properties because I keep the shortcut itself in a subdirectory on the network drive. All of the shortcuts stored in this network subdirectory are set to Read Only. Finally I have on my desktop a shortcut to this subdirectory (folder). When I open the folder all of my program shortcuts are there and since I know the shortcuts are being read fromthe network I know they are accurate and have not changed.

Even if my desktop gets messed up, I just open my computer and navigate to the network subdirectory holding these shortcuts and copy the folder shortcut back to my desktop. And all of my program shortcuts are back.

Hopes this helps.

ed


At 28 SEP 1998 09:57AM Victor Engel wrote:

]I have run into problems like this as well. It seems that I have duplicate but different settings and that is the case.Indeed, I have gone into the registery (manully and via TWEAKUI) and reset the location for Desktop, my documants, programs, startup folders to be the network drive.However, I have not had the shortcut change properties because I keep the shortcut itself in a subdirectory on the network drive. All of the shortcuts stored in this network subdirectory are set to Read Only.<

I tried setting my shortcut to read-only, and it didn't make a difference. The system loaded Arev using settings that were at odds with what was in my shortcut. Then, I couldn't correct them (even back to the value that was actually in the shortcut) because the shortcut was read-only.


At 29 SEP 1998 09:07PM ed wrote:

]]I have run into problems like this as well. It seems that I have duplicate but different setting and that is the case.

]I don't think I understand what you mean.

There are times when certain user specific settings seem to be changed by WIN95 even though I did not make the change. This leads to me to think that I have different profiles sitting around that Win95 uses. It should only be using the one on the network but at times…

]]Indeed, I have gone into the registery (manully and via TWEAKUI) and reset the location for Desktop, my documants, programs, startup folders to be the network drive.]Well I am using the defaults for all of these anyway, so I don't think this is the issue.

Again I was using this as an idication that WIN95 does indeed change some things in the registry even though I specifically change it to something else. I gave up trying to change these locations - some stay some don't.

]]However, I have not had the shortcut change properties because I keep the shortcut itself in a subdirectory on the network drive. All of the shortcuts stored in this network subdirectory

are set to Read Only.

]I tried setting my shortcut to read-only, and it didn't make a difference. The system loaded Arev using settings that were at odds with what was in my shortcut. Then, I couldn't correct

them (even back to the value that was actually in the shortcut) because the shortcut was read-only.

So WIN95 just ignored the shortcut settings? But could you change the readonly setting on the shortcut back to nonreadonly?

Sometimes I just throw up my hands and make an offering to the computer gods.


At 01 OCT 1998 03:25PM Victor Engel wrote:

It appears that what was happening was that the first time Arev was loaded, the settings were used. Thereafter, it appeared to be random. Nothing is ever truly random in the computer world. We just don't know how to identify the pattern. The technician decided that what needed to be done was to reinstall Windows 95. Believe it or not, he was not able to do it on the first 3 or so attempts. He was finally successful, and all seems to be well again.


At 29 OCT 1998 06:29PM Brian Gregory wrote:

Victor,

 I have the same problem with several computers on our network.  Some have it, some do not.  On the ones that do, I have reinstalled Win98 but the problem persists.  I even bought a new computer (Compaq) thinking maybe our Tiger clones were the problem.  The Compaq had the problem straight out of the box.
 Have you found any other solution?  I have been fighting this, off and on, since February.

Thanks,

Brian Gregory
 briangregory@tridentnet.com

At 29 OCT 1998 09:51PM Victor Engel wrote:

The solution was to format the hard drive and reinstall Windows 95 followed by all my software.


At 11 FEB 1999 12:16PM The answer wrote:

After reading these posts while experiencing the same problem, we went to http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q198/1/40.asp?FR=0

where we found an article on the changing always suspend check box. You won't believe what is causing the problem - mouse drivers! The article says to upgrade to logitech 8.0, but that didn't work for us. Driver 8.2 did, however. Get it at: ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/TechSupport/MOUSE/m82setup.exe

Win 95 and especially Win98 depend on drivers, drivers, drivers to function correctly. Hope this saves people from formatting their hard drives.

Barbara Blackie & Jane Rodda @ Zadek, Inc.

bblackie@Zadekinc.com jrodda@zadekinc.com


At 11 FEB 1999 06:04PM Victor Engel wrote:

I think I've seen that reference before, and it may have been my problem, but I don't think so, since I've never had a Logitech driver on my system as far as I know. In fact, we have a standard workstation configuration here that's rolled out to all users as a starting point. This same configuration was used in the initial rollout of the workstation to me as well as in the subsequent rollout. Between those two times, there were some applications installed, but these same applications were installed again after reinstalling Windows.

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