Just came across this… tried out in 7.x, 8.x and 9.x and works the same way.

keypart1=12345"

keypart2=abcde"

open "myfile" to Openfile Then

 write "Hello world" on OpenFile,keypart1:"*"keyypart2 else debug

end

This will compile and will run without error and could mess up some databases for folks so I thought I would post it here.

I will also post in the tracker.

I won't say what the error is in this thread just for fun but can you find it?

We suspect that implicit formatting has been reintroduced to help AREV32 people…

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Yes, that's correct. The compiler now supports "implicit formatting" again, so it's possible (and legal) to say something like:

X=12345""L#10"

instead of

X=FMT("12345", "L#10")

This is for both AREV32 and CTO.

- Bryan Shumsky

Revelation Software

Given that, then what are the rules then if…

keypart1=12345"

keypart2=abcde"

write "hello world" on openfile,keypart1:"*"keypart2

will write a record to openfile with thehello world" on openfile,keypart1"*"keypart2

will not compile and finally

write "hello world" on openfile,keypart1"*":keypart2

will write a record with thehello world" on openfile,"12345""abcde"

will write a record with the id=12345

?

Bruce,

The implicit formatting should behave the same as it did in Arev, as the expression rules were added back into the OI compiler from the Arev 3.12 version.

I have to say I consider implicit formatting one of the great evils of Basic+ and it's responsible for many subtle bugs that aren't always obvious to spot - I've seen several "bug" reports about the compiler that came down to the re-introduction of implicit formatting for Arev32.

I think something that should be pursued by RevSoft in the new year is the capability to make implicit formatting optional so you can choose to remove it if you wish. I think it should be based on an "opt-in" switch of some kind - perhaps a #pragma statement and/or #define.

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Hi, Bruce. Given your examples, none of the "implicit" formats work out to a real format code, so no formatting is applied. Specifically:

write "hello world" on openfile,keypart1:"*"keypart2

will write a record to openfile with theve formatted "*" with an invalid format, so only "*" is returned. The "*" is then concatenated to keypart1.

write "hello world" on openfile,keypart1"*"keypart2

will not compile because you're asking for an implicit format on an implicit format which isn't allowed

write "hello world" on openfile,keypart1"*":keypart2

will write a record with the*" is applied as the format code and does nothing, leaving keypart1 and keypart2 to be concatenated together. And finally

write "hello world" on openfile,"12345""abcde"

will write a record with theabcde" is applied to the string "12345", and - since that's not a valid format - only 12345 is returned.

Possibly confusing and troublemaking, I concur, but consistent…

Hope that helps,

- Bryan Shumsky

Revelation Software

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